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(“大卫”调查)报告称他们的电话采访涉及上百家医院,其中调查员M就给八十多家医院打过电话,调查员N给近四十家医院打过电话。我们在苏家屯和在广西对于当事人的采访都证明这样的电话记录不具备真实性。
两位大卫的调查报告以大量错误百出的所谓电话采访为依据得出一个荒唐的推论,这个推论认为1999年以后中国的器官移植数量突然增长,而中国在1999年又恰恰发生了法轮功事件,因此增加的器官移植手术供体必然来自于法轮功学员,这一推论不仅仅在逻辑上是错误的,而且用以推论的数字基础也是编造的309医院石炳毅教授的话。
通观报告全文,两位大卫所使用的证据不外乎三类:一是所谓的证人证言如安妮的话石炳毅的话以及被篡改的电话录音;第二类为从网上下载的资料;第三类就是一些包含着可能据说应该如果等词汇的含混的逻辑推理,如两位调查员会从中国是一个人权状况较差的社会就推出法轮功学员器官被活体摘取是应该存在的,从政府减少了医院的财政拨款,就推论出医院会摘取用法轮功学员活体器官进行盈利。但对苏家屯医院广西民族医院以及石炳毅的求证都证实了不仅这些推理本身不符合逻辑,而且连推论的前提都是错误的,三类证据没有一个是值得信任,经得起推敲和考证的。[1]
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Narrator:
A hospital was discredited as a concentration camp for Falun Gong
practitioners.
Zhang
Xu (spokeman of Sujiatun hospital, which is formally called Liaoning Thrombus Treatment Center of
Integrated Chinese & Western Medicine): It says that our hospital is the
concentration camp, housing thousands of Falun Gong practitioners from whom the
living body organs have been harvested.
Narrator:
A couple of doctors were slanderously accused of removing living organs.
Yu
Sanjiang (cerebral surgeon of Sujiatun hospital): I am but an ordinary
physician. I'm wondering why they fabricated the stories on me.
Narrator:
How did the ridiculous rumor come into being?
Zimo
(anchor of phoenix TV): On June 6, 2006, two Canadians, David Kilgour and David
Mattas published an independent survey in which the Communist China was
indicted to remove alive the organs of Falun Gong practitioners. And its
revised version on January 31, 2007 even shocked the whole world that organs of
a large number of Falun Gong practitioners were illegally removed alive for
transplant surgeries. What is the truth on earth?
David
Mattas: We're going to work out the second version. Rather than 18 items of
disproof, 25 or 26, even 27 methods are to be used for proof and disproof.
Narrator:
David Mattas, a Canadian human rights lawyer. David Kilgour, a former Canada
Congressional prosecutor. Two-month investigations gave birth to the so-called
report of China
harvesting organs alive in July 2006. On publication of its revised version in
Jan. 2007, they claimed to have enough evidences that the Chinese
government illegally detained large
numbers of Falun Gong practitioners and removed their organs alive for
transplantation, the hospital had made huge profits. The report was translated
into 9 languages. Two Davids advertise the report loudly in 15 Asian, European
and North American countries and on many international occasions, they smear
at China`s organ transplantation system
and have made a very bad impact on China.
Mao
Qun'an (spokesman of the Ministry of Health of the State): We are very angry.
The impact of this report, especially on the public abroad, is very bad and
it's beyond the field of organ transplantation technology. It's definitely a
premeditated attack towards our country and our government.
Narrator:
According to Davids' report, Miss Anne (anonym) said that her husband, a
surgeon, had cut the cornea of almost 2,000 dopey Falun Gong practitioners
within two years. And other organs of those cornea donators were removed by
other physicians, and their bodies were finally burnt. The place they accused
is Sujiatun hospital, in the city of Shenyang , Liaoning Province ,China .
Narrator:
Sujiatun district is located in the south suburb of Shenyang , Liaoning
Province, about 20 minutes' drive from the city. There are four hospitals in
Sujiatun district where hospitals are comparatively centralized. Certain
oversea media have indicted that hospital for several times by mentioning it
vaguely as Sujiatun hospital. Related Falun Gong websites show the picture of
the accused hospital as Liaoning
Thrumbus Treatment Center of Integrated Chinese & Western Medicine. It is
surprised that the hospital condemned of removing living organ of Falun Gong
practitioners is actually a special hospital curing cerebral thrombosis. Vice
president of the hospital, Zhang Yuqin, happened to work in the clinic when we
arrived.
Zimo:
The overseas report continuously censures that the physicians of your hospital
removing living organs from Falun Gong practitioners. How big is your surgical
department?
Zhang
Yuqin (Vice president of Liaoning Thrombus
Treatment Center
of Integrtated Chinese
& Western Medicine): The surgical department is simply a small ward and we
have a treatment room in addition. We can only supply simple treatment in the
treatment room, such as handling simple wound and stopping bleeding.
Zimo:
How many surgeons are there in all?
Zhang
Yuqin: Just a little more than ten.
Zimo:
You told us that your hospital never did the things mentioned in the report.
But is your hospital capable of removing living organs?
Zhang
Yuqin: We do not have the ability to remove organs and we have no such
equipments either.
Narrator:
There are merely 300 beds for patients in this Sujiatun hospital and the
maximum capability of the hospital is 600 patients.
Zhang
Xu, the spokesman of Sujiatun hospital,
considers that the so-called Sujiatun concentration camp for Falun Gong
practitioner is a sheer nonsense.
Zhang
Xu (spokesman of Sujiatun hospital): Every single sentence is fabricated. Our
hospital was founded in 1988 and before that the place was a vegetable garden,
so there are many residents living around it. We have been here since the
hospital was founded. It situates right in the residential area with many
traffic roads nearby, and takes in large amount of domestic and foreign
patients everyday. If what the report says is true, then the two Canadians
would have no chance to be the first to report the event, since the whole
nation at least the staff of our hospital like us would know it first.
Therefore, the so-called event is a sheer nonsense.
Narrator:
This is the inpatient department of the Sujiatun hospital. Before two Davids'
report, the website of Falun Gong Minghui.org pointed out that this hospital
hided more than 6,000 Falun Gong practitioners and 2,000 of them were set on
fire after being removed living organs. The website even published the
cinerator, which was actually the boiler room of the hospital.
Zimo:
How long have you been working here?
Worker
(in the boiler room): I came to work in the boiler room since 1991, so 16 years
in all.
Zimo:
What's your daily work?
Worker:
This is a two-ton boiler. We mainly manufacture pharmaceutical preparation of
Chinese and western medicine, supply hot water for the laundry and steam for
the kitchen and dining-room, and so on.
Zimo:
Around the year 2003, did you sense anything abnormal in this boiler room?
Worker:
Nothing abnormal.
Zimo:
For exemple,was there any other thing being burnt?
Worker:
Definitely no.
Narrator:
This is merely an ordinary boiler room. There are glass windows both in front
and back of the room and the residential area is about only ten meters away. So
a resident could see the activity clearly through the glass windows of the
boiler room just from his house. Besides, the boiler room has only two doors
connecting the outside.
Zhang
Xu: I don't know whether you have noticed or not the picture on Minghui.org
which was actually shot from the nearby residential area. The residential
building is right above the boiler room, so the residents could see anything in
the room when they dry their clothes in the sun. Under such a circumstance, I
don't know how to keep any secret.
Narrator:
According to common sense, if Sujiatun hospital indeed hided more than 6,000
Falun Gong practitioners, then how to solve the problem of their daily lives?
Zimo:
So we want to know during that period, did you receive any assignment to supply
logistical support to such a large number of people?
Qi
Qide (Section chief of adminstration of Sujiatun hospital) : I have been
working here ever since the hospital was founded. The regular supply of this
hospital is to provide water, electricity, heating, oxygen, laundry and meal,
and nothing else.
Zimo:
Suppose there are 6,000 people staying in your hospital, what kind of
preparation work do you have to support the logistics? How much money and how
many people are needed to serve them?
Qi
Qide: Provided that there are 6,000 people, first of all we have to ensure the
accommodation. But we do not have enough rooms for so many people to stay in
our hospital. Besides, we need at least 5,000 to 6,000 people to serve them. We
only have 600 staff in our hospital, then where can we get so many workers
serving them?
Narrator:
After the scandal of Sujiatun hospital hiding Falun Gong practitioner appearing
in Epoch Times, the working personnel of American Consulate-General in Shenyang
pretending to be a patient came to Sujiatun hospital to consult the organ
removing operation, and failed to dig out any problem.
On
March 21, 2006, the Consulate sent Mr. David Kombluth, the consul of Shenyang , to investigate
Sujiatun hospital again. The five-people group examined carefully the sickroom,
office building, medical equipment and even the utility room storing sundries,
yet failed to find anything abnormal.
Zimo:
How long did the American consul's investigation last?
Zhang
Xu: He came here twice. The first time he came was when Falun Gong was hyping
up the news, if I am correct it`s
probablly on 18 March. On 22 March, Mr. David Kombluth, the US consul, in the name of
visitation, came to our hospital . I received him and showed him around, and it
took about one hour. The second time he came was after our government had held
the news conference. The American Consulate-General tried to seek help from the
Ministry of Foreign Affairs to investigate in our hospital. This investigation
lasted five hours and it was a comprehensive interview. We introduced in detail
the equipment in each part of our hospital and their functions, and we also
explained particularly the medical treatment projects, including the operation
and some original records.
Zimo:
Did he find any abnormity in the process of investigation?
Zhang
Xu: No.
Narrator:
On April 12, 2006, the AP released news. The spokeswoman of the American
Embassy in China
announced that according to the current information they had collected,
Sujiatun hospital was simply a hospital functionally.
Narrator:
On March 31, 2006, a person whose name was signed in Epoch Times as a retired
military surgeon of Shenyang
military Rigion, said that Sujiatun hospital once detained more than 10,000
people in early 2005. He also said that in 2006 the daily detained people are
600 to 750 and many of them had been transferred to other concentration camps.
He even described in detail that they were transferred by special trains and lorries,
and it needed only one day to transfer 5,000 people. Sujiatun hospital is very
close to a crossroad which leads to Shenyang-Haerbin expressway, so there are
many vehicles coming and going. It is also next to Xuesong Road and Guihua Street and it's surrounded by
bank, community school and stadium, there is no large empty space in the
surroundings. Therefore, it is impossible to transfer so many people in such a
busy area without being noticed. We are going to interview the nearby residents
to see what happened.
Zimo:
We just want to know did you see large number of strangers coming and going out
of the hospital.
Residents:
No.
Zimo:
Never?
Residents:
No, not at all. This hospital is very regular.
Zimo:
Did you live around here in 2002 to 2003?
Residents:
Yes. We have been here for 7 to 8 years.
Zimo:
Did you see thousands of people coming and going out of the hospital?
Residents:
Absolutely no.
A
patient's relative: My parents-in-law had been in hospital since last year. We
are scared by the scandal. I think it's impossible. It's a special hospital for
treating cerebral thrombosis, then how can there exist organ business? Some
even say there is a basement. It's ridiculous. Sheer nonsense.
Zimo:
But the report indicated that all the patients had been transferred and the
previous rooms disappeared just in one night ever since the news was revealed.
Zhang
Xu: The report said that 6,000 Falun Gong practitioners, along with the
incinerator and other equipment were displaced just in one night. It's
unbeleivable. Where could such a large number of people go? What's more
important is what I told you just now, this is a busy residential area and
transferring so many people, it could not be achieved without being noticed.
That's why I'm sure that it's nothing but a rumor. Any sane person who has
common sense and is capable of thinking normally would know that it's lying as
long as he comes to visit the hospital just for once.
Narrator:
On June 1, 2007, Epoch Times spreaded rumor again. It said that Mr. King who
was applying for Korea
nationality disclosed that a surgeon named Yu Haishan of Sujiatun hospital was
specialized in organ transplanting operation on Falun Gong practitioners. We
came to the hospital and found the only doctor whose surname was Yu (Yu Sanjiang).
Doctor Yu thought that the rumor was related with a consultation call he had
answered when he was on duty in hospital in May 2007.
Zimo:
On June 1 this year, some oversea websites released the news about Sujiatun
hospital. They censured that a retired surgeon whose surname was Yu was hired
to Sujiatun hospital and performed living organ transplanting operation on
Falun Gong practitioners. I guess the Doctor Yu might mean you?
Yu
Sanjiang (Surgeon of Liaoning
Trombus Treatment Center of Integrated Chinese & Western Medicine): I
answered a phone call in mid May(The caller is a woman). She said first that
she was looking for Doctor Yu Haishan, a good surgeon retiring from Shenyang . I told her that
she got the wrong person and I was Yu Sanjiang, not Yu Haishan, I had retired
from General Hospital of Liaoning Province. She then said that she heard I
could perform kidney transplanting operation. I denied and told her that was
not my major.
Narrator:
Yu Sanjiang is a surgeon of tumor, not capable of performing kidney
transplanting operation, but the woman on the phone kept on the issue of kidney
transplantation.
Zimo:
Did you feel strange when you answered the phone?
Yu
Sanjiang: Yes, I felt very strange. It was a woman who had southern accent,
probably around 40 to 50 years old. She talked as if she was trying to sound
out something.
Zimo:
What did she say after you told her that you could not perform a kidney
transplanting operation?
Yu
Sanjiang: She kept on talking and said that she heard I could do it, and repeated
several times how to cure uremia and mentioned kidney transplant. I hung up the
phone and then stopped explaining anything.
Zimo:
You have never performed any organ transplanting operation?
Yu
Sanjiang: No, never. No doctors specialized in tumor could perform organ
transplanting operation, especially for the doctors specialized in alimentary
canal. As far as I know, there is no hospital is capable of performing kidney
transplanting operation in the entire Sujiatun area.
Narrator:
Since Doctor Yu cannot perform kidney transplanting operation, then who on
earth was Mr. King declaring himself to be Doctor Yu's friend in Epoch Times
website?
Zimo:
Do you have a friend whose surname is King and is Korean nationality?
Yu
Sanjiang: No, I haven't.
Zimo:
Since the oversea report said that a man of Korean nationality, with his
surname King, revealed in South
Korea that he was your friend, and he
suggested that you were specialized in organ transplanting operation in
Sujiatun hospital.
Yu
Sanjiang: No, I am not. I have been back to my hometown for more than five
years and I contact more people of Han nationality for I myself am a Han
nationality man.
Narrator:
The only testimony of witness in the entire report was such a so-called lady
Anne who declared herself the wife of a surgeon in Sujiatun hospital. Then who
was lady Anne on earth?
Zimo:
Along with the evidence of location of the accused hospital, the report
provided a testimony of witness who is Lady Anne. She said that her ex-husband
was a surgeon of Sujiatun hospital and he told her that he had removed cornea
of 2,000 Falun Gong practitioners in two years, bring about great suffering to
her family.
Zhang
Xu: I want to say something about the so-called testimony of witness, Anne.
First of all, there is no such a person in our hospital at all. Second, what
she said was full of contradictions. She said that her husband was a brain
surgeon, then how could he perform cornea removal operation? If you know a
little about medicine you would know it's absolutely impossible. What's more,
she said she was a staff member of this hospital, but it's not true.
Zimo:
What Anne said is totally unreliable?
Zhang
Xu: I can tell you honestly and I am responsible for what I am saying that not
even a tiny word of what Anne said is true.
Narrator:
After the rumors appearing in Minghui.org and Epoch Times websites, which said
that Sujiatun hospital had detained secretly Falun Gong practitioners, removing
their living organ and burning their corpses to eliminate the vestiges, on 31 March,
2006, the journalists of four Media including Japanese NHK and Hongkong`s
"Public Daily" went to Sujiatun hospital for on-the-spot
investigation and interview. On 12 April, the spokesman of Sujiatun hospital
gave a news conference in Beijing
and 12 Media, including Washington Post and AFP and so on, attended the
conference.
Zhang
Xu: Since we are not guilty of anything, we explain everything in detail in the
interview and show them around in our hospital.
Zimo:
Do you think there were any conscientious reports from oversea media?
Zhang
Xu: I should say that all the 13 Media which attended the last news conference,
including Reuters and Washington Post, have made the news reports objectively
and veritably. That's also the reason why Falun Gong accused our hospital less
and less since the last-year`s news conference, as whenever the truth came out,
there was no room for deceit to exist.
Mao
Qunan: Mentioning the report, the foreign journalists themselves didn't believe
what it said. They paid more attention on the development of organ
transplantation techniques in China
and considered the report unreliable. Why? Because Sujiatun event led them to
believe that it was Falun Gong organization that took advantage of medical
development and fabricated such a story just for certain political motive.
Narrator:
A large amount of the evidence in two Davids' report was actually quoted from
telephone interviews pretended by the people they hired and it was said that
hundreds of hospitals in China
were interviewed. The report especially mentioned in detail the interview of
Doctor Lu in Guangxi
Nationality Hospital .
It said that the doctor had admitted he once went to a prison to pick out
healthy Falun Gong practitioners around 30 years-old to provide organs. So we
came to Guangxi.
We
came to Guangxi Nationality Hospital
with the report. The hospital locates in a busy area of Nanning (the pronvicial
capital) and it is a general hospital of Level Ⅲ
Grade A, which is not capable of performing organ transplanting or removal
operation. We found Doctor Lu in the consulting room of Urological Department.
He is a physician-in-charge.
Lu
Guoping (Doctor from Urological Department of Guangxi Nationality Hospital): In
May 2006 when I was on duty in the hospital, I got a phone call from a woman
who had northern accent and was about 50 years old. She said that one of her
relatives suffered from uremia and it was very urgent. She wanted to receive
kidney transplanting operation as soon as possible and asked if our hospital
could do it. I clearly answered her question that we were not able to do the
operation and suggested her going to Guangzhou
organ transplanting center.
Narrator:
Lu Guoping came to work in Guangxi
Nationality Hospital
in 1999. He was promoted to a physician in charge in 2004 and went to a
superior hospital in Guangzhou
to attend in a advanced studies in 2005.
Lu
Guoping: She kept on asking me if the hospital used the Falun Gong
practitioners' organs. I told her I didn't perform such kind of operation and
had no idea of where the organ came from. She then asked if the organ came from
some prison or something like that. I told her positively that it was
impossible.
Narrator:
Two Davids`report even described vividly that doctor Lu once suggested the
woman to fetch organ from Guangzhou
and told her it was easier to get organ there. He even said that he used to
pick out healthy Falun Gong practitioners' organs in prison. Hearing this, Lu
Guoping was astonished at these telephone record.
Lu
Guoping: The content of the record was not what I said at that time, and a lot
of things had been altered. There were two obvious problems. First, the report
said that when I was asked if I previously fetched the organs of Falun Gong
practitioners from prisons or detention houses, this report said my answer was
from prison. But it was not my answer at all. I actually told her that neither
our hospital nor I could transplant organs, so there was no need for us to fetch
organ at all. Second, the report said that when the woman asked me if I had to
pick up organs in prison by myself, I gave a positive answer. But the fact was
no such a question had been mentioned. It was all faked.
Narrator:
The report claimed that they had interviewed hundreds of hospitals on
telephone, including investigator Mr.M's call to more than 80 hospitals and
investigator Mr.N's call to almost 40 hospitals. The face-to-face interview
with the persons concerned in both Sujiatun and Guangxi proved that such
telephone records were by no means reliable.
Narrator:
Based on a lot of so-called false telephone interviews, Davids' report drew a
ridiculous conclusion. that conclusion was related to the abrupt number
increase of organ transplanting operation in China in 1999 with the Falun Gong
event in the same year, which inferred the increase organ suppliers were those
Falun Gong practitioners. The conclusion was logically inaccurate, and the
numbers which were the basics of the conclusion were also counterfeiting, that came from Professor Shi Bingyi's words.
309
Hospital, also known as the Second Subsidiary Hospital of PLA General Hospital ,
possesses the organ transplanting center of PLA. Shi Bingyi is the director of
the center, who is also the executive deputy director of Organ Transplantation Sub-branch of the
Chinese Medical Association. He is an authoritative expert in the organ
transplantation field in China .
Zimo:
Recently we read a report worked out by two independent Canadian investigators
and it quoted your words. It said that 90000 organ transplanting operations had
been done in China
till 2005. During the years from 2000 to 2005, a period that they called after
the persecution of Falun Gong practitioners, 60000 had been done, which meant
that there was a substantial increase in the number of operation cases. We are
wondering if you said such words under any circumstances?
Shi
Bingyi (Executive deputy director of Organ Transplantation Sub-branch of the
Chinese Medical Association ): I didn't say that. You know why? Since I have
never had such statistic data in my mind. I haven't done any particular survey,
I haven`t these data concerning the number of operation cases in certain period
of time, so it was impossible for me to say that.
Zimo:
Though you haven't said the specific number of operation cases, but do you
think these numbers from the report could be true?
Shi
Bingyi: I don't think it`s true. I read from the report that they investigated
in the name of patients' relatives, just calling hospitals and asking the
person who answered the phone.
Zimo:
After you read the report of independent investigation, have you ever clarified
the statistic data quoted from you?
Shi
Bingyi: Yes, I have. I am an armyman, so I have to protest through legal
channel, with the help of the Medical Department of General Logistics
Department PLA, I wrote a letter to the Ministry of State of Public Health to
clarify that I have never said that words.
Zimo:
Have you ever clarified the facts to any oversea media?
Shi
Bingyi: Yes, I have. When I was interviewed by BBC on the phone I told them
that I didn't say that.
Narrator:
Shi Bingyi suggested that the numbers of organ transplantation operation had
grown since the end of last century, but it had nothing to do with Falun Gong
event.
Zimo:
How should we understand that the numbers of organ transplantation operation in
China
grows so substantially?
Shi
Bingyi: The increase is directly related to the fact that the medical science
is developing and we now have more competent doctors, instead of having more
organ supplier. In recent years, coming back from Pittsburgh
and Britain ,
the Chinese visiting scholars set about organ transplantation work. So the
organ transplantation techniques have developed a lot both in clinic application
and scientific research, and it`s same for other countries in that period.
Internationally speaking, up to now, it has been only half a century since the
first case of operation of organ transplant in the world.
Zimo:
How to solve the organ supplier problem if the amount of operation increases
substantially?
Shi
Bingyi: The lack of organ supplier cannot be settled. It will exist forever,
not only in our country but also in other countries.
Zimo:
The report also mentioned some other numbers. For example, it was said that
some Chinese hospitals advertised in their official websites that the patients
needed only two weeks for the organ supplier, whereas in other countries they
normally need one year. How would you explain the difference?
Shi
Bingyi: I can tell you that some patients of our hospital have been waiting for
3 to 4 years. The number of patients who have been waiting for more than 1 year
is definitely more than 200.
Narrator:
After Sujiatun hospital was indicted as Falun Gong concentration camp, organizations
of different levels, such as the Ministry of Public Security and the Ministry
of Public Health, separately carried out sudden checks to the hospitals,
failing to discover anything abnormal and holding news conference to clarify
the truth. Later, when the revised edition of Davids' report came out, the
Ministry of Public Health investigated all the clues both secretly and openly
again.
Zimo:
Do we have any evidence to prove that such thing as transplanting living organ
of Falun Gong practitioners had never happened in China ?
Mao
Qun'an: It reminds me of another rumor spreading abroad by Falun Gong
organization when we prevented bird`s flu. We actually discovered a case of
people infecting bird`s flu in Liaoning province, but they distorted it to scores
of people dying of bird`s flu, even listing the specific name of each patient.
Then we assisted the police to investigate, only finding out that the listed
people either not existing at all or living healthily. Reading the report, we
are thinking about if Falun Gong organization could offer a detailed name list
as I mentioned above, we would immediately disclose their lie and bring the
real facts to light. However, instead of giving any specific fact, the report
only described such a large scale of living organ transplant cases. So we have
no chance to disprove it directly. For example, if the report said something
about certain person, we could find the person so that the person would speak
out the truth to the public. But it's a pity that we failed to find out any
such clue.
Zimo:
In the process of regulating and administrating the organ transplantation, in
your opinion, what improvements are urgently needed besides the medical
technique itself in China ?
Mao
Qun'an: Organ transplantation is a new medical technique and it attracts much
attention both in China
and abroad. I have been interviewed many times on this topic. Some oversea
Media and journalists kindly gave us opinions and suggestions on how to
regulate the organ transplantation in our country. We think they were very
objective. During the process of developing this technique, a lot of medical
institutions and staff have participated in it. Since the technique is new and
everybody is longing for contributing to its development, we need to regulate
it. The two factors are not conflicted at all. But Falun Gong organization took
advantage of this chance to fabricate such a ridiculous story. I believe when
the oversea public get to know about the development of our society and medical
science, the lie would collapse of itself.
Subtitle:
On July 1, 2006, The Interim Regulations on Clinical Application Administration
of Body Organ Transplant came into effect. On May 1, 2007, The Regulations on
Body Organ Transplant came into effect.
Narrator:
Reading the whole report we found that Davids' evidence could be reduced to
three categories: first, the words of so-called testimony of witnesses, such as
Anne and Shi Bingyi and the distorted telephone records; second, materials
download from the Internet; third, illogical inferences containing certain
vague words, such as "might", "should", "if" and
so on. The example of the third category was that the two investigators
inferred the living organ removal from Falun Gong practitioner should exit
because human rights condition was not good in China , and they deduced that the
hospitals were making profit by removing living organ from Falun Gong
practitioners as the government reduced the fiscal appropriation for hospitals.
But the on-the-spot investigations of Sujiatun hospital and Guangxi Nationaltiy
Hospital , as well as the
talk with Shi Bingyi all confirmed that not only the inference was illogical
but also the premise of the inference was false. Therefore, no evidence of
three categories was reliable or could bear close inspection.
Zimo:
We have discovered from Internet that one of the investigators of the report,
David Mattas who calls himself a human right lawyer, is Lai Changqing's
counsel. The two Davids who have never been to mainland China were warmly welcome by Lv Xiulian in Taiwan . In
addition, they exert their full strength to propagate the report in many
international conferences and call for governments and athletes to resist 2008
Beijing Olympic Games. However, it's a pity that our on-the-spot investigation
has found out that no fact is in accord with what the report said. Then why do
the two Canadian Davids, one of them a well-paid lawyer and the other once a
government officer, work out such a report full of mistakes? What is their
motive?
(Phoenix TV, August 16,
2007)
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